Comments on: Whining sucks more than Basecamp http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/ Dev related notes, tutorials and anecdotes Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:42:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Editor @ WhyBaseCampSux.org http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-5618 Editor @ WhyBaseCampSux.org Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:15:28 +0000 http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-5618 First, thanks for the free press! <br><br>Second note that the ads came to the site more than 1.5 years after launching the site. Check out <a href="http://archive.org">archive.org</a> if you don't believe me.<br><br>After paying for hosting for over a year I thought "what the heck, why not sell ads." And it has proven very useful for those who have advertised as everyone of them has renewed several times. <br><br>@Clint James: No, 37 Signals did not put up the site. I am a legitimately disgruntled ex-customer. <br><br>@Wimmmmm: I wasn't "whining about choosing the wrong product", I have been complaining about Jason and 37 Signal's attitude towards customers, plain and simple. If they are going to act as it they know better than everyone else they should expect to be called out for it as my site has done.<br><br>Anyway, back to the ads. One option I'm considering is to create a project management site that is not a bitch site and move the ads there and convert the bitch site back to a pure bitch site, or to just take it down. It's been up a while and made it's point for the most part. I gave a much longer reply here:<br><br><a href="http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/">http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-su...</a><br><br>Once again, THANKS A BUNCH for making more people aware of WhyBaseCampSux.org; because, as they say, all press is good press! '-) First, thanks for the free press!

Second note that the ads came to the site more than 1.5 years after launching the site. Check out archive.org if you don't believe me.

After paying for hosting for over a year I thought “what the heck, why not sell ads.” And it has proven very useful for those who have advertised as everyone of them has renewed several times.

@Clint James: No, 37 Signals did not put up the site. I am a legitimately disgruntled ex-customer.

@Wimmmmm: I wasn't “whining about choosing the wrong product”, I have been complaining about Jason and 37 Signal's attitude towards customers, plain and simple. If they are going to act as it they know better than everyone else they should expect to be called out for it as my site has done.

Anyway, back to the ads. One option I'm considering is to create a project management site that is not a bitch site and move the ads there and convert the bitch site back to a pure bitch site, or to just take it down. It's been up a while and made it's point for the most part. I gave a much longer reply here:

http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-su…

Once again, THANKS A BUNCH for making more people aware of WhyBaseCampSux.org; because, as they say, all press is good press! '-)

]]> By: Wimmmmm http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-3415 Wimmmmm Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:12:06 +0000 http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-3415 We're using BaseCamp as well for over a year now, and recently we've added UnFuddle to it to handle tickets & bug tracking.<br>I agree with you 100%: don't whine if you yourself took a wrong decision and had unaligned expectations. BaseCamp should remain simple, it's a core feature! We're using BaseCamp as well for over a year now, and recently we've added UnFuddle to it to handle tickets & bug tracking.
I agree with you 100%: don't whine if you yourself took a wrong decision and had unaligned expectations. BaseCamp should remain simple, it's a core feature!

]]> By: Wimmmmm http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-1509 Wimmmmm Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:12:06 +0000 http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-1509 We're using BaseCamp as well for over a year now, and recently we've added UnFuddle to it to handle tickets & bug tracking.<br>I agree with you 100%: don't whine if you yourself took a wrong decision and had unaligned expectations. BaseCamp should remain simple, it's a core feature! We're using BaseCamp as well for over a year now, and recently we've added UnFuddle to it to handle tickets & bug tracking.<br>I agree with you 100%: don't whine if you yourself took a wrong decision and had unaligned expectations. BaseCamp should remain simple, it's a core feature!

]]> By: Clint James http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-1508 Clint James Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:09:01 +0000 http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-1508 Well, I'm not a Basecamp customer either. I prefer <a href="http://www.wrike.com" rel="nofollow">Wrike</a> for a number of reasons, but that's not the point. I actually think that <a href="http://whybasecampsux.org">whybasecampsux.org</a> was created by 37signals themselves, so that their advocates would hate the whine site creators. As for the adds, why not make money charging your stupid competitors :) Well, I'm not a Basecamp customer either. I prefer <a href="http://www.wrike.com" rel="nofollow">Wrike</a> for a number of reasons, but that's not the point. I actually think that <a href="http://whybasecampsux.org">whybasecampsux.org</a> was created by 37signals themselves, so that their advocates would hate the whine site creators. As for the adds, why not make money charging your stupid competitors :)

]]> By: Clint James http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-863 Clint James Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:09:01 +0000 http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-863 Well, I'm not a Basecamp customer either. I prefer <a href="http://www.wrike.com" rel="nofollow">Wrike</a> for a number of reasons, but that's not the point. I actually think that whybasecampsux.org was created by 37signals themselves, so that their advocates would hate the whine site creators. As for the adds, why not make money charging your stupid competitors :) Well, I’m not a Basecamp customer either. I prefer Wrike for a number of reasons, but that’s not the point. I actually think that whybasecampsux.org was created by 37signals themselves, so that their advocates would hate the whine site creators. As for the adds, why not make money charging your stupid competitors :)

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